I took an actual vacation. First in a few years. Went to WA to hang with a best friend, then we caught up with some great friends, then those great friends gave me a ride home, after fishing, and then rocking a couple of shows, and then some more fishing.
Mid-March 2000 – Jacoby Shaddix Interview (Papa Roach)
I drove to Jacobys house. I walked up to the door and rang the bell. Jacoby opens the door. Ruckus and Ruby, his dogs, welcomed me with paws and fur to go with my attire. I guess it has been a while since I have been there. Jacoby and I sat down. I pushed play on my tape recorder. I asked Coby Dick some questions. Coby Dick answered them. This is some major bathroom reading.
JAY- People across the country right now are digging your shit, hearing you on the radio in their hoopties, their Hondasports, Jeeps, and shower radios. What do you think about that?
Coby Dick- Its awesome man. Its been crazy because we are going to towns, and its like, youve been there when we are like in front of nobody and stuff, and pretty much, a lot of the shows we are doing right now, we are not playing with bigger bands, so its just us. So sometimes there are only like five kids that come out, but those five kids are like, “Yo dude, we got the sampler from the street team kids, and we totally love your shit and were telling all our friends. Its just like a fukkin, like a gas, you know what Im saying, to get out there, like get in front of a crowd Ive never seen before. Its trippy , like it would be weird, because Id go to a town and people will walk up to me like, “Whats up Coby Dick,” and Im just like, “Do I know you,” because everyone who calls me Coby Dick knows me personally and shit. So its kind of strange, but its cool. I think like, I think dude, if we become rock stars dude, I think Ill be a good rock star. I think Ill be good at that shit.
JAY- Yeah, you will be. How do you feel when you think of your fan base growing like a fungus each day, show by show?
Coby Dick- Hell yeah dude, its like, P-Roach like the fungus is like the “Dead Cell” virus spreading, and its awesome because we can cancel out all of this wack-ass shit coming out, and come with some correct music, straight from the heart, lyrically and musically. Im not saying our music is superior, Im just saying I think people can connect with their lives more with our music, and the energy of Papa Roach like, the people feel it, deep, all the way down to their toes and shit. So its exciting, its a great feeling.
JAY- I know you have played more than a few shows with Sevendust, but how were these recent shows with Sevendust, playing at the House of Blues in Las Vegas, and Los Angeles, just fat shows?
Coby Dick- Yeah they were dope dude like fukkin, dude you should have been in Vegas dude, Vegas was off the fukkin hook.
JAY- I was there.
Cobe- You were? Were you?
Cobe- See dude, I dont remember anything anymore.
JAY- You tried to jump the fence.
Cobe- Oh yeah, and we were handing out demos, duh dude. Did you see when I jumped into the crowd the last time?
Cobe – You hear me over the mic, “oh shit.” It was crazy because we fukkin came out and I was stage diving on the first song and shit. I got so excited on the last one I jumped so far I like jumped passed the people, and landed right in the pit, but the shows with Sevendust were awesome. The Hollywood one sucked worse because its just Hollywood, you know what Im saying, but everywhere else, Reno was great, where else did we play with them, Arizona was dope. Also, playing with those guys, that band is like, on the same wavelength as us, as far as a hard working band, putting it down on “real-style,” and I think they saw that in us, and thats why we really clicked well.
JAY- Clint definitely saw it.
Cobe- Yeah Clint was down dude. Lajon, he came out, we played in Phoenix, and the next night they had off, they stayed in Phoenix, and they stayed in Phoenix to see us play at this little little club. There was probably like fifty or sixty people in there and like all of the guys in Sevendust rolled up and they watched our whole set, and they were like “Much love to P-Roach,” and like, hopefully were trying to link up that Tattoo the Earth tour with them. So they are putting in good words for us also, and we are putting in good words so if they read this or see it, or anybody sees it and knows Sevendust, dude tell them P-Roach loves them!
JAY- When you first started out, who were some of your biggest musical and non-musical inspirations?
Cobe- Non-musical inspirations would be that I was completely bored in my town of Vacaville, CA. Like there wasnt really shit for me to do. I played sports in the beginning of high school, but I was always interested in music, but I never had an instrument, or money to buy an instrument. I finally saved up, you know, to get an instrument, and I did that, and I ended up being a singer, but that was my non-musical inspiration, I was completely bored, and I had to find something to do. My earliest musical inspirations were total like Glam 80s, you know, thats what got me into music. Then from there I got into like Chili Peppers, Nirvana, Deftones, Nuclear Rabbit, Mr. Bungle, Faith No More, those were like my earliest, and Primus also, those were like my biggest influences, you know, as a kid.
JAY- In my opinion, you have just about the best stage presence Ive ever seen. You visually take control of the crowd, and if they are not playing football in the pit, they are staring at you guys, so like, standing high up on the stage what is some of the craziest stuff you have seen while you are up there?
Cobe – Ive seen, Ive seen, some, fukkin, titties man. Girls, I aint mad, you know, if they want to do that you know, its cool you know. Im not out there like, “Show me some titties,” but Ive seen some titties, and I aint mad about that, and dude, crazy motherfuckers, stage diving dude, motherfuckers doing flips into the crowd. Vacaville heads and shit, I got hardcore friends that are out there doing hardcore dances, you know, hardcore kids doing that shit, and that trips me out because not a lot of hardcore kids are into this kind of music. I think its just because we are in that scene in Vacaville, and kids grew up with us, and they kind of like went into hardcore, but they are still down, and thats awesome, plus hip-hop kids come out to our shows. Plus another thing is that its just not fukkin white kids, its totally diverse and thats awesome, like Im totally about unity, and thats awesome that I see that at our shows. In the pit, sometimes people get fucked up, but they are picking each other up, and its like a love vibe, you know what Im saying. Even though its aggressive and violent, it still has a positive thing, and thats awesome, and another thing about the shows, is just, we just completely have a great time, and thats important as hell.
JAY- On this new album “Infest,” what song was finished in the least amount of time?
Cobe- You mean as in recording process, or writing process?
Cobe- “Tightrope. Dave went in, we had the drumbeats, he just went in and laid down a chorus beat, and a verse beat. Then we just cut and pasted it. That was like hella quick. We didnt have to do all kinds of edits, and the vocals were totally just. That was like the easiest song for me to record because it was like, totally just chill vocal styles instead of like, because I really push myself a lot of the time, so it was like really mellow, and that was really cool. I got to actually like, Im sober when I record, and Im sober when I play, and that was the only track where I like, had a bottle of wine, I smoked a little joint, I was like “whoooooo.” It was exciting, and that was probably one of the most exciting songs to record because it was so different, we didnt know we could do anything like that, plus mixing it was easy because it was a real basic mix.
JAY- Yeah Cool. What song means the most to you on this album? What was the song that when you heard the final master just hit you in a certain way like no other song on the album?
Cobe- I would have to say “Binge” and “Broken Home.” Those are the two songs. “Binge” kind of got a new life, you know, because its got that thing in the chorus, that high part in the chorus that kind of like, takes it to kind of like an 80s feel. It reminds me of something U2 would do on top of something, which is like, exciting you know, because its like, adding those overdubs brings new life to those songs, and also like “Revenge” too. I talked to somebody that has the new version and said they really didnt like it as much. I was like, to me, I like the new version more, kind of like, because I think its just like the overdubs and we were in the studio putting it down and putting it together, and like doing all of these extra things was like, fun, and getting it to the end and mixing it down, and putting it in and having the DJ on that song, like gave it the, the hip-hop break-down is like, SUPREME, it totally flips the script. As far as “Broken Home” goes like, the intro with the delay panning from side to side, we werent even like, we didnt like it at first, we were like “nooo,” but then like the more and more we listened to it you know, its got more like a trip-hop kind of feel, plus the lyrical value of that song is like totally deep to my heart, and, so those are like the three songs that most like, struck me.
JAY- Last night, there was a party at the Bottom of the Hill (San Francisco, CA). The last band that played, literally caused a riot in that place.
Cobe- Yeah we blew that place up fool. That place was off the hook, like sweat was dripping off the ceiling in that motherfucker. Kids went off, we played a real tight set I think, and its crazy because so many of the same people come out every time and they dont get tired of it, and thats awesome to me. That says something to me that this is really special. People really connect to this, and even if it is, you know, sometimes we play the same set a few days in a row, and you come see us, and its like the same thing, but its got that new energy every time. I dont believe that the P-Roach energy becomes old. Its always exciting, and to us, every show is like a new challenge, and I always want to maintain that everyday, like our manager Bret came to our past couple shows and Im like, “Dude do we still got it?” We have been playing a lot of shows, and sometimes for bands, it deadens them, they sometimes become jaded, and like one thing that Im paranoid about is becoming that. I dont want to become that. I think a band that does not do that, like Sevendust, they put on a good show every night. We went out with them for five days and they just blew it up every night, and it was just awesome to see that, and that was inspiring to me to know that bands are still out there blowing it up every night, you know?
JAY- Yeah. Was that your first time playing there?
Cobe- Um, second time. The first time we played there was like in front of like 50 people, and that was like days ago, but Live105 has been pushing the single too, so that really helped. Plus they were like, not really even, like, I dont even think pushing the single helped the draw of the show. I think its just that they announced the crap out of it. We already got the fans to come and see, its just a matter of fukkin, “Yo whats up, P-Roach is coming to town.” Also dude, thanks to Live105, the city of San Francisco, the area, because they have really helped us a lot. Plus 98 Rock too, like because this is going to be in Rant dude, props to 98 Rock because, its not like we kissed their ass to get on, but they were like, they got on P-Roach, and we were down, we made a relationship, you know, so for a Sacramento radio station, 98 Rock got the bomb.
JAY- Ok, the last two questions. From all of the cities you have played, where was the one most “off the hook” show, and then tell me what city gets the craziest every time they see you play, which I already know the answer to.
Cobe- I dont know which one is it? I dont know?
JAY- Well I dont know the best show, but the city
Cobe- Vacaville and Sacramento.
Cobe- Sacramento more dude, the pass few shows in Sacramento, have just been going off. San Jose too.
JAY- Thats what I was going to say.
Cobe- San Jose, its like really weird. Northern California as a whole dude, like just goes off. Its weird because when we go on the road, like, I want to be able to have the energy that Northern California has, like what we have and what the crowd gives to us because, they are screaming the words, and its like, I dont want to compare us to a hardcore band, but the drive behind the music, and the desire, and the intensity, and the passion behind the music, is like what hardcore bands have. We are not a hardcore band, and Im not gonna claim that at all, you know, and if a hardcore kid reads it and goes, “ohtheyduh, they tryin to claim this,” well whatever they can think what they fukkin want, but I see the passion behind their music, and I think that we also have the passion that they have for their music, and our crowd also, they are really passionate, and thats what I really appreciate. I dont even know what the question was, oh “off the hook.” Dude, like Northern Cali as a whole is “off the hook” right now, like the best crowds. The one that really surprised me the most, and was a brutal show, was Santa Cruz, and Santa Cruz is like a punk rock town.
Cobe- Dude you should have been at the last Santa Cruz show, it as packed as fuck. There was probably like five hundred and fifty people there, and we headlined it. It was crazy ill, and like, its a punk rock scene, and I was like, I said that into the mic, “Yo, this is a punk rock scene, but you are open to different kinds of music,” and thats awesome. We got kids in tri-hawks, and punk rockers out there (Jacoby says to his wife) “You saw that shit that was “off the hook” huh?”
Cobes wife- Thats where you saw all the titties.
Cobe- Yeah thats where Id seen the titties. Well, that didnt really add to the “off the hook” sense, I mean that was just like, “off the shirt,” but you know, it was like, Santa Cruz really surprised me because we have not really rocked it really before like we did the last time so that was awesome, but Northern California as a whole, I got love, you know, Vacaville, Sacramento, San Jose, Santa Cruz, Chico, you know, all of those towns, you know?
Mid March 2000, around the same time I interviewed Jacoby for Rant Magazine (Sacramento, CA), the day before I interviewed Jerry online since I could not drive to his house that day. Here is how it went.
jAy: How are ya?
Jerry: I’m good….it’s nice to have a day off
jAy: I hear that. I got home at 5AM last night. Here is a comment, and question straight from a fan. It was so awesome that the fans were able to partake in the making of the “Last Resort” video. That meant a lot to you truest fans. Was that a decision of the band, or was it Marcus, the director of the video, his choice?
Jerry: That was completely our choice. They wanted to shoot it in L.A., but we wanted to have our fans in it, and we couldn’t do that in L.A., so we did it in Sacramento
jAy: Cool…The fans are thankful for that, as you saw that day. How has the experience been, playing in towns where you have never played before? What are the feelings you get seconds before the first note on those nights?
Jerry: Well, some of the shows are literally in front of 10 people, but we always rock our hardest, because we know that those 10 people will tell all of their friends about a kick-ass band they saw. Sometimes we wince at the sight of 10 or 20 people, but we adjust mentally, and rock out anyway.
jAy: Making the “Last Resort” video, how was that experience for you, and how did the idea for the video come about?
Jerry: Well, let me just say that previous to the shoot, I had heard people in bands say that they hate doing videos, and how horrible they were. To the contrary, I had a really good experience. I think having our fans in the video brings a realness to it that is really intangible. The idea for the video actually came from Marcos. He had lost a friend to suicide, so he had some idea of how to convey the message of the song without being really blatant.
jAy: If you know, when might the video be released?
Jerry: Actually, I don’t think there is a scheduled date yet. Probably sometime within the next 3 weeks.
jAy: When on the road, in the van, what are some of the things you guys are doing to pass the time?
Jerry: We sleep, or listen to music, or sleep.
jAy: Haha……yeah. OK, Jerry, as consistant as you all play, and in most cases, errorless, when was the last time you can remember while performing, your equipment, the vibe, the rest of the band, and everything else was on point, and going good, but you fucked up?
Jerry: Me personally?
jAy: Yeah, can’t have you talk about the others.
Jerry: That would be last night, at the Bottom of the Hill.
jAy: Was that you, when it happens, are you always aware, or do you sometimes not even know?
Jerry: I can usually hear myself well enough to know when i mess up.
jAy: What have you been listening to lately?
Jerry: I’ve been listening to the new Snapcase record, Refused, Jimmy Eat World, Mock Orange, Fear Factory, Tori Amos, Helmet, Smashing Pumpkins, RHCP
jAy: What does Mock Orange sound like?
Jerry: Well, if you know what Refused sounds like, they sound like them, but a little more emo….really tight stuff.
jAy: I shall check them out. Why isn’t “Blood Brothers”, and “Legacy” both on the album, why one song for the clean version, and one for the unclean version?
Jerry: Well, “Legacy” wasn’t going to make the record at all, but “Blood Brothers” wouldn’t have been able to be edited, and still mean the same thing, so to fill that spot on the clean record, we chose “Legacy.”
jAy: Whoa……Yeah, I can see that. By the way, You know I haven’t said it to you guys too many times, but the album is definately bangin’.
jAy: What is something that you have always been doing, that you cannot do now, or as much since signing with Dreamworks?
Jerry: Well, pretty much the only thing we can’t do, is release our older stuff on our own. I know a lot of people want to get 5 Tracks Deep, and Let ‘Em Know, but some of those songs are on our new record, so we can’t release them.
jAy: Out of all of the songs that you have written, which is your favorite? One song, out of ALL songs you guys have?
Jerry: You HAD to ask that question, didn’t you?
jAy: I’m sorry, but there’s gotta be at least one.
Jerry: Right now, I think it’s “Blood Brothers.”
jAy: Alright, last question. What was the last show you went to where you were not performing, who and where?
Jerry: The Last show I went to see was Sno Core in Sacramento, CA
jAy: So, do you have any last words?
Jerry: Thank you, and thanx to all the fans for all of their support.
jAy: Dope, thanks a lot for your time….Later Jerry.
Jerry: Later Jay